Proud to be Public Sector x CBF
Proud to be Public Sector
The podcast that shows: public administration can be modern, agile and inspiring — with Anke, Ramona and Joana.
Proud to be Public Sector
Two stages, One Attitude
The Creative Bureaucracy Festival and Proud to Be Public Sector share one goal: to prove that public administration can be a place of innovation, creativity and real impact. Together, we want to reach people in and around the public sector: changemakers, encouragers and everyone working to transform administration from within. Because change needs role models, and role models need a stage.
Two stages, One Attitude
The Creative Bureaucracy Festival and Proud to Be Public Sector share one goal: to prove that public administration can be a place of innovation, creativity and real impact. Together, we want to reach people in and around the public sector: changemakers, encouragers and everyone working to transform administration from within. Because change needs role models, and role models need a stage.
Meet the Hosts
Three hosts, one mission: Since 2023, Anke Dargel, Dr. Ramona Rekers and Joana Isabel Visel have been talking to innovation drivers, role models and changemakers from the public sector.
Episodes from the Cooperation
🎙️ "Resilient Administration: What to Do When an Order Isn't Lawful" with Julia Kuemper
August 26, 2026
Julia Kuemper, chair of the association Verwaltung für Demokratie, explains why remonstration is one of the most powerful yet least-known tools in the civil service and how her association builds confidence to act through a first-aid kit and checklists.
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🎙️"From hierarchies to networks — administration for the future" with Frank Zimmermann
July 22, 2026
A turning point, growing demands, new threats — and an administration that has to reinvent itself within just a few years. Frank Zimmermann works on innovation in public administration and talks about how change can succeed under this kind of pressure.
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🎙️ "What happens when a federal agency dares to build an innovation lab" with Kristin Bauermeister
June 7, 2026
Kristin Bauermeister leads the innovation lab of the Federal Institute for Real Estate Tasks (BImA). What does it take to create room for real experiments inside a federal agency and what resistance comes with it? An episode about courage, structure, and holding both at once.
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🎙️ "The story behind it" with Bernd Fesel
May 27, 2026
Bernd Fesel, festival director of the Creative Bureaucracy Festival, talks about the vision behind the festival, this year's motto "creative bureaucracy – stronger democracy!?", and the mission that unites podcast and festival.
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