Activism is a world which often, in spite of working to change the world, ends up recreating its patterns of dysfunction, rates of burnout, unhealthy working practices and power-over relationships. Might it be that we are stuck in patterns where we react against perceived injustice but never really recognise how we embody those same injustices, indeed how we also manifest them, unconsciously, in how we move through the world? Can we, as activists, find the tools to – as one of our guests today puts it – understand that transforming ourselves is inherently part of transforming the world?
So rarely do we stop and reflect on the extent to which, as activists, we are entangled in the very structures and systems we are trying to change, and that how we do things might be impacting what we do, or try to do. This fascinating conversation with two great thinkers on these questions is the first time an episode of this podcast has been filmed, so we hope you really enjoy it.
This session is created in collaboration with the From What if To What Next podcast.